Fixed/Disk hub

topic posted Thu, January 5, 2006 - 11:48 AM by  Wunnspeed
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I'd swear that I saw a fixed/disk hub somewhere. Anyone with ideas?

I'm racing in a series over here that, from all reports, is nearly all double-track dirt and gravel roads. I'd like to build up a fixed rear wheel and still be able to brake as some of the races are in the Alps.

Thanks for any help.
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Wunnspeed
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  • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

    Thu, January 5, 2006 - 11:58 AM
    I have seen the smae thing, but I can't remember where it was. On the other hand, I think Level Components in Massachusetts may have/be developing a fixed hub with a disc mount. The owner is an ex-messenger from DC, cool guy. The only drawback (if it can be called a drawback) is the cog, it's a proprietary design and you have to get the cogs from him. The hub itself is quite the feat of engineering, very cool. Check them out!

    www.levelcomponents.com
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    Re: Fixed/Disk hub

    Thu, January 5, 2006 - 12:10 PM
    I was looking for the same thing..came up with options I did not care for..level was one mentioned and also PHIL (i have a bad history with that brand)..cant you just get a rim brake on the rear? the front does the stopping (60%+) --I was running MY 2004 S.A.S.S. with a fixed rear--it was 700c though(frame is designed for 26) so I was able to use a funky sidepull brake and have somethin on the rear wheel...Now I am running it with a bendix 2spd coaster..
    tell us what you find please...
    • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

      Thu, January 5, 2006 - 1:44 PM
      My bike's a custom Curtlo 29'er built with no canti studs. It's a great thought though.

      2 speed coaster... those are rare. Great job!
      • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

        Thu, January 5, 2006 - 1:57 PM
        I've got a 2 speed kick-back coaster on my '66 Schwinn Racer. Runs like a dream. I've heard the kick-back 2 is worth a bunch of money, and I don't ride the bike that often so I was thinking of selling it to help finance my trip to Sydney. Any thoughts Eric?
        • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

          Fri, January 6, 2006 - 10:20 AM
          If you seriously want to sell it... which is near sacrilig (sic) I know a couple of people in the states that might be very interested.
          • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

            Fri, January 6, 2006 - 10:53 AM
            Give them my email addy:

            lug_junkie@trackbike.com

            We'll see what happens. I bought the bike on a whim, it's too small for me and rarely gets ridden. I hate to have a bike that forever stays in the stable, it's sad you know.
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              Re: Fixed/Disk hub

              Sat, January 7, 2006 - 10:55 AM
              Even if your bike doesnt have studs you might be able too do one of three things...us a side pullor a BMX brake (if your bridge is drilled) ofr find so moot mounts(hard) which are early 80's bolt on canti posts...,there are alos some arches for putting cantis on a schwinn from the clunker days (I think made by ACS) recently I saw a bolt on setup fashioned out of parts of an old suspension fork brake mount bolted to the frame with hose clamps..looked neat as well..
              good luk on getting some stopping power there..

              As far as Bendix two speeds they work..but sturmey they ain't---the non drive gear is very gridny ,I don't rate them as good as a torpado, or even Shitmanohno two speed hub..but they are the EASIEST to find becuase they went on to so many bikes here in the states. There are 3 types red band blue band and yellowband (thats what I have) the differences are on brake typy -disc style coaster VS expanding pad coaster & Overdrive VS Underdrive.
              They also made a manual version of this hub that used a lever to shift.(these are "kickback") I think the lever ones are now worth more due to the fact that people are converting them to fixed wheel.
              as far as selling
              I dont think they pull down sturmey ASC or TF prices (~3-500) but more in the 50-100 range I havnt looked in a long time though--prbably better to sell the whole bike in tact to somebody with a ashtubula fetish...put it in the local hot rod car ads those people pay good money for americian bicycle shaped objects...
            • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

              Sat, January 7, 2006 - 11:33 AM
              El... passed it on. We'll see if they are interested. Thanks.
              • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

                Thu, January 12, 2006 - 8:03 PM
                PHil wood makes one:
                www.philwood.com/Price%20L...edHubs.pdf

                and Paul has a few sets available too:

                www.paulcomp.com/index.html

                Hecka expensive, but you're building a niche bike that has no broad appeal for factories in taiwan to mass produce hubs for it, so yer stuck. but Paul and Phil make sweeeeet hubs and are worth the cabbage for it.
                • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

                  Fri, January 13, 2006 - 8:53 AM
                  Tom... you're the bestest!

                  Anything from Phil Wood might as well be Gucci or D & G... you're right, rediculously expensive. I own a number of Paul things and have loved everyone of them.

                  Might have to have a small discussion with the wife regarding the hubs. The best part... she's a bike fanatic as well. Woo-hoo! It's Friday and I find this out. Sweeet.
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                    Re: Fixed/Disk hub

                    Fri, January 13, 2006 - 9:10 AM
                    sounds like you guys are gonna have a fun weekend.
                    enjoy it.
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                      Re: Fixed/Disk hub

                      Fri, January 13, 2006 - 9:24 AM
                      do you know anbody with a LAthe?? its not impossible to cut some reverse threads on a threaded disc hub --also niche but more common than fixie--think sass..BTW I saw a bendix yellow bad up on ebay was under 50 with a couple of days to go..
  • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

    Mon, January 15, 2007 - 5:55 PM
    Old skool fixed method will set you up. I'm sure some of you are aware that you can thread a track cog on a standard freewheel and then take an old skool loose ball bottom bracket adjustable cup lock ring and thread it on afterwards to lock it on. Go buy yourself a singlespeed freewheel disc rear hub, a track cog and BB lock ring and you have yourself a disc/fixed. I've been riding a high flange record hub with this same set up for over 6 years with no problem.

    Ciao,
    Z
    • Re: Fixed/Disk hub

      Tue, January 23, 2007 - 10:35 PM
      Speaking of machining... it's worth finding a machine shop who will cut lockring threads into a freewheel'ed hub, thereby making it truly fix. I work with a wrenchboss who is an ex-machinist, and I'm told with sureness that this operation, and most any kind of threading, can most definitely be done, but preferrably by someone who knows exactly what it is they're doing with bike componentry. None of my bike buddies are working in a machine shop right now... or otherwise I'd be tempted to rack up on Nukeproof BMX hubs, or some 'ol shit.

      Aside from machining, I'll agree with zax on the tried and true b/b lockring method on a singlespeed/disk hub. But beware! You'll want to locktite RED the suckers on, lest yer stuff spins off when backpedaling. That's PERMANENT! So... eh... weak as it sounds, setup with a fairly cheap hub/cog and run it into the ground. When it's beat... spin again!

      Go surly...

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